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164November 1975
$0.25

Fantastic Four #164

Marvel · November 1975 · on sale 1975-08-26

First appearance: Frankie RayeFirst appearance: TheliusFirst appearance: The Crusader1 variant
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Identification plate

Series
Fantastic Four (Marvel, 1961 series)
Issue
#164
Publication date
November 1975
Key date
1975-11-00
On-sale date
1975-08-26
Indicia publisher
Marvel Comics Group
Price
$0.25
Pages
36
Rating
Approved by the Comics Code Authority

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Why this issue matters

First appearance of Frankie Raye - the earliest non-flashback appearance on record for this character.

First appearance of Thelius - the earliest non-flashback appearance on record for this character.

First appearance of The Crusader - the earliest non-flashback appearance on record for this character.

First appearance of Mrs. McClary - the earliest non-flashback appearance on record for this character.

First appearance of Calvin McClary - the earliest non-flashback appearance on record for this character.

The evidence

Claims here come from the story records for this issue, listed under Sources at the bottom of the file. Character hubs with full evidence tables are coming to this site.

Contents

SeqStoryTypePagesCreditsCharacters
0The Coming of the Crusader!cover1pencils: Jack Kirby; inks: Joe Sinnott; letters: Danny CrespiThe Crusader First, Ben Grimm, Human Torch, Invisible Girl, Mister Fantastic, Reed Richards, Susan Storm Richards, Johnny Storm, Thelius First, The Thing
1The Crusader Syndrome!comic story18script: Roy Thomas; pencils: George Pérez, Joe Sinnott; inks: Joe Sinnott; colors: P. Goldberg; letters: John Costanza, Joe RosenThe Crusader First, Ben Grimm, Human Torch, Invisible Girl, Alicia Masters, Mister Fantastic, Frankie Raye First, Franklin Richards, Reed Richards, Susan Storm Richards, Johnny Storm, Thelius First, The Thing, Calvin McClary First
2-letters page1script: Roy Thomas
3A Gargantuan Gallery of Garulous Goings-On Guaranteed to Garner You Gratitude!in-house column1script: Stan Lee

Plus 1 page of advertisements and other matter across 1 sequence, as published.

Printings and variants

EditionHow to tell
Britishprice 0.09 GBP

Where to read it

CollectionYear
Fantastic Four Visionaries: George Pérez #1
ISBN 0785117253
2005On eBay ›
Essential Fantastic Four #8
ISBN 978-0-7851-4538-7
2010On eBay ›
Comic Reader #1211975On eBay ›
Marvel Masterworks: The Fantastic Four #16
ISBN 978-0-7851-8845-2
2014On eBay ›
Atlas: Marvel Boy #[nn]
ISBN 978-0-7851-4771-8
2010On eBay ›

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Series context

Sources

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